Sounds like an injury waiting to happen. If someone submits its for a reason typically not because they want you to continue to keep them in that situation to satisfy your fetish for inflicting pain. If anyone would ever hold me in a move past my submission that would be our last match ever...
yes people we are talking about guys with common sense and agreed before the match takes place. It works out great and pushes you past that point. Now of course its before your injured.
What do you guys think of an agreed match where the submissions are held for an extra amount of time after the tap to grind the opponent down? No rest between subs. Winner is first to grind the loser to verbal quit.
There are positions and holds which aren't actual submissions to which guys will sometimes tap: hundred kilos, for example (if you don't know what is, Google it). Theoretically, it is "safe" to ignore the submission for a few moments at least because your opponent can physically tolerate the situation (just not mentally).
Chokes, also, if you're correctly applying them, would be theoretically "safe" to ignore a submission on and put them out (as long as you can tell when they're out and immediately release them).
Most submissions are some form of joint lock, and these are absolutely not even theoretically safe to ignore because they don't work as submissions until they're on or across the threshold of doing physical damage.
There are some guys out there whom I know are competent, trained, and experienced and I'd trust them in a match enough that I wouldn't tap to a choke; I'd keep fighting and either escape or let myself go out.
But, yeah; this idea generally sounds like a recipe for injury, especially between untrained grapplers.
A hot idea in fantasy and looks hot when seen in pro. However, for those of us who do like sub or promission, a tap almost always means that the person on the receiving end has reached or surpassed their limit in that hold. The risk of injury in this type of scenario is a real concern.
Dangerous even if agreed upon; as it could spread to taps being ignored at other times. Taps are used not only as "I give up," but also as an instinctive sign of actual pain, injury, or other distress, which on rare occasion might render the tapper unable to yell out. It should be absolute as a stop sign or a red light. Ignoring a second attempt to tap out could end up with a hard fist as the third tapping..
SuperBadSabs (1)
2016-02-22 18:44Sounds like an injury waiting to happen. If someone submits its for a reason typically not because they want you to continue to keep them in that situation to satisfy your fetish for inflicting pain. If anyone would ever hold me in a move past my submission that would be our last match ever...
Spruceman (55 )
2016-02-22 19:02(Som svar till detta)
Some might say it could be the person doing the continuing's last match ever as well.
WiganWrestler89 (0)
2016-02-15 09:06Common sense obviously applies!
dantheman777 (3)
2016-02-23 02:29(Som svar till detta)
yes people we are talking about guys with common sense and agreed before the match takes place. It works out great and pushes you past that point. Now of course its before your injured.
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-24 03:27(Som svar till detta)
Yes common sense applies to everything
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-21 04:50(Som svar till detta)
Yes it does. Bring it on cuz
WiganWrestler89 (0)
2016-02-15 02:04What do you guys think of an agreed match where the submissions are held for an extra amount of time after the tap to grind the opponent down? No rest between subs. Winner is first to grind the loser to verbal quit.
IndyWarrior (39)
2016-12-05 14:06(Som svar till detta)
There are positions and holds which aren't actual submissions to which guys will sometimes tap: hundred kilos, for example (if you don't know what is, Google it). Theoretically, it is "safe" to ignore the submission for a few moments at least because your opponent can physically tolerate the situation (just not mentally).
Chokes, also, if you're correctly applying them, would be theoretically "safe" to ignore a submission on and put them out (as long as you can tell when they're out and immediately release them).
Most submissions are some form of joint lock, and these are absolutely not even theoretically safe to ignore because they don't work as submissions until they're on or across the threshold of doing physical damage.
There are some guys out there whom I know are competent, trained, and experienced and I'd trust them in a match enough that I wouldn't tap to a choke; I'd keep fighting and either escape or let myself go out.
But, yeah; this idea generally sounds like a recipe for injury, especially between untrained grapplers.
GrappleBear (7 )
2016-02-18 05:52(Som svar till detta)
sounds like an ideal matchup
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-20 04:37(Som svar till detta)
Let's you and me wrestle until someone submit
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-17 22:51(Som svar till detta)
Come on down and let's you and me wrestle here in Enterprise Alabama at the Econolodge Inn and Suites or Boll Weevil Inn
dantheman777 (3)
2016-02-17 17:40(Som svar till detta)
I like that one min longer or as you the winner sees fit
rufffight1979 (2)
2016-12-05 11:32(Som svar till detta)
I agree Dan.
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-17 23:12(Som svar till detta)
I'm ready to submit you
dantheman777 (3)
2016-02-19 21:06(Som svar till detta)
you are so hot I would love to wrestle you with the finish of me being choked out and used
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-20 04:36(Som svar till detta)
Come on over and let's you and me wrestle dantheman777
Hardmatch (99)
2016-02-17 08:04(Som svar till detta)
A hot idea in fantasy and looks hot when seen in pro. However, for those of us who do like sub or promission, a tap almost always means that the person on the receiving end has reached or surpassed their limit in that hold. The risk of injury in this type of scenario is a real concern.
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-17 22:52(Som svar till detta)
I'm ready to take you on in a one on one toe to toe shoulder to shoulder man to man wrestling action match
Hardmatch (99)
2016-02-18 06:12(Som svar till detta)
I would gladly take you on.
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-20 04:39(Som svar till detta)
Come on down and let's you and me wrestle
greekwrestler (75)
2016-02-17 02:08(Som svar till detta)
want to take u like that wigan. man enuf? I travel
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-21 14:57(Som svar till detta)
I want to wrestle you greekwrestler
greekwrestler (75)
2016-02-17 02:04(Som svar till detta)
man I LOVE this
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-17 02:14(Som svar till detta)
I'm ready to take you on
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-15 06:06(Som svar till detta)
I'm ready submit you
GI WARRIOR (0)
2016-02-15 06:05(Som svar till detta)
I'm ready submitted for
Spruceman (55 )
2016-02-15 05:34(Som svar till detta)
Dangerous even if agreed upon; as it could spread to taps being ignored at other times. Taps are used not only as "I give up," but also as an instinctive sign of actual pain, injury, or other distress, which on rare occasion might render the tapper unable to yell out. It should be absolute as a stop sign or a red light. Ignoring a second attempt to tap out could end up with a hard fist as the third tapping..
Snake Hips (3)
2016-02-15 06:01(Som svar till detta)
Spruceman, that was the best possible reply to what was quite a silly post. Well said!